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Friday, September 25, 2009

Jason Pegler is a Rapist

UPDATE: Now available through Google Books, you can see the relevant passages for yourself without needing to rely on the screenshots taken here:

Jason Pegler describes raping a girl
Jason Pegler claims raping that girl doesn't count as rape
Thanks to Chipmunka for making Jason Pegler's autobiography, A Can of Madness, available free of charge.

Also, as requested by Chipmunka themselves, this post now comes with page numbers and screenshots of pages in case someone might think I made all this up.

Reading the book, painful as it may be, reveals some interesting things about the CEO of Chipmunka Publishing.

Let's start at page 21:

I also remember having an aching hard-on with several naked girls when I was 14 but they wouldn’t let me have sex with them – either because they didn’t want to get pregnant or because they didn’t want to be called slags. There again, I did manage to push it in to one of them but she wriggled off. In the event, I started fucking one who had passed out but she woke up barfing on my shoe.

Note: "they wouldn’t let me have sex with them," "I did manage to push it in to one of them but she wriggled off," and "I started fucking one who had passed out but she woke up."

UPDATE: In reviewing the text for Chipmunka, I found something I overlooked the first time, immediately following the text quoted above. "Her friends broke in and gave
her a bath to sober her up." Her friends broke in, past the door that Jason Pegler locked in order to rape a girl who was passed out drunk*.

Don't let this make you think that Jason Pegler is a bad person. He offers plenty of evidence to the contrary (Page 89):

I was not racist though. I was into rap and had a massive poster of Snoop Doggy Dogg holding a gun in my room.

This explains why he was involved in a fight that began after his friend shouted at a black girl, calling her an "afro," but not a racist. Jason Pegler had Snoop in his room, and even let him hold a gun while he posed for a promotional poster. He's clearly not racist. I bet some of his friends are even *gasp* black.

He has an excellent level of respect for women (Page 58):

I went to have a bath and, passing the unlocked door, saw a girl called Karen lying in it. She was demented and cried out my name so I left the room worried that the staff would come in and put me on a six month section. I didn’t want to be trapped for longer because of one incident and I was too shy and considerate to make a move on her.

Aww <3. He didn't "make a move" on a woman with sever mental problems because he was too shy and considerate. Also because he didn't want to get caught. From Page 179:

I would never hit a woman so I just walked off in a rage.

I expect he was waiting until the woman in question fell asleep. It's a lot easier then. Right, Jason?

Let's look at Page 85:

A few days later I started fucking this girl called Harriet. She was fat and, although her face was reasonable, I only went anywhere near her because I wanted to sleep with her friend, Shelly.

Some people would consider this appalling, but really, look again. Jason Pegler loves Shelly so goddamned much that he would sleep with someone he is not attracted to just to give himself the chance of sleeping with the girl he loves. That is textbook romance.

Some (unenlightened) women might be uncomfortable at spending time with Mr. Pegler, but he has a solution for that (Page 127):

I think I scared her a bit. I mean, she started shaking when I put my arm round her in the cinema. Anyway, I didn’t give a fuck really.

See, ladies? If Jason doesn't give a fuck, you can do what you like! He doesn't care. Awesome.

So what kind of person has all these qualities? Let's see what Jason thinks about himself (Page 41):

Was it that I cared too much about the human race and took it upon myself to endure the suffering of others? Was I hyperintelligent? Was I genetically inferior to others? The answer was probably a combination of all three.

I'd have to agree, based on the evidence. Jason Pegler cares too much about the human race. He is clearly hyperintelligent, and also genetically inferior to others. That makes sense.

Jason overcomes his genetic inferiority with martial arts training, and sighing (Page 128):

I remember the head of department, after I had told him that most of my script was autobiographical, saying: “I hope your life really wasn’t like that.” I brushed his remark off with a deep sigh and some extra tae kwon do training.

Hard. Core.

Jason also, probably through his hyperintelligence and deep love of humanity, is able to understand the suffering of others, as he demonstrates in this almost poetic phrase (Page 225):

I was as weak and as fragile as a little baby being raped by a paedophile.

Beautiful.

So, how is Jason doing now? Let's see what he has to say (Page 109) :

Don’t think I’ve got the potential to become a rapist or a paedophile, but who knows?

Who knows?

"they wouldn’t let me have sex with them,"
"I did manage to push it in to one of them but she wriggled off,"
"I started fucking one who had passed out but she woke up."

You know, Jason. You don't have the potential to become a rapist. You already are a rapist*. And a terrible, terrible writer (Page 16) :

My mum was living round my Nan’s and they were going to get a divorce.

But mainly, you're a rapist*.


UPDATE: Apparently Jason Pegler has rape on the brain, according to this find where he asks for "talented rapers."


Thanks to Anonymous Submitter.

*According to Jason Pegler's Autobiography, a Can of Madness, where he describes how he raped a young girl in a locked bathroom.

66 comments:

Anonymous said...

That is seriously disturbing. I couldn't care less about your problems with his company, but rape is something else.

Jason Pegler is a rapist. Yuck.

Anonymous said...



Found when searching for "jason pegler rape"

hahahahahaha

Chipmunky said...
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Chipmunky said...

Hiya, what page number is that quote from?

If it did happen then I'm in no way condoning it. But given the subject matter and how it is written it's hard to know what did actually happen. After all, it also say's that he got the Spice Girls pregnant!

I am interested in what this letter was you wrote that got featured in someone's biography. If it was a nice letter you wrote then I don't see why you'd want it taken out the book. If it's a nasty letter you wrote the maybe it's your fault for writing it?

Chipmunky said...

This blog shows hatred towards the charitable organisation Chipmunka Publishing. A chariy that has saved the lives of many people going through emotional or mental distress. Because Jason Pegler is the founder of this charity, the author of this blog has begun a personal vendetta against him.

Because this blogger demonstrated hatred to a Chipmunka author and had his actions reported, he has since created this blog to ruin the reputation of a life saving charity.

This blogger has maniplutivly altered the suggested 'quotes' from an autobiography for his own gratification and shows no reference pages for these 'quotes'. It is disturbing how this blogger wishes to destroy a charitable organisation.

Squirrel said...

"This blog shows hatred towards the charitable organisation Chipmunka Publishing."

No. This blog shows (and will show) that Chipmunka Publishing have little to no understanding of copyright law, are callous, underhanded and dishonest in their dealings with people who have genuine complaints, and also that, if their CEO is to be believed, they are run by a former rapist.

"Because this blogger demonstrated hatred to a Chipmunka author and had his actions reported, he has since created this blog to ruin the reputation of a life saving charity."

This blogger was mistreated by Chipmunka and has since created this blog to expose the mistreatment.

"This blogger has maniplutivly altered the suggested 'quotes' from an autobiography for his own gratification and shows no reference pages for these 'quotes'. It is disturbing how this blogger wishes to destroy a charitable organisation."

This blogger has altered no quotes. Though I don't really want to read the book again (I enjoy well-written stuff) I'll go through and find your quotes and provide references.

In my opinion, it is disturbing how a 'charitable organization' can behave in such a dishonest way, and then hide behind their charity in order to excuse their lack or professionalism and regard for decency.

That's what I might expect from someone who admits to rape while still being in denial about it, though.

Squirrel said...

"I am interested in what this letter was you wrote that got featured in someone's biography. If it was a nice letter you wrote then I don't see why you'd want it taken out the book. If it's a nasty letter you wrote the maybe it's your fault for writing it?"

Aside from the fact that you obviously know what this is about, you are also demonstrating that you know nothing about copyright law.

You don't get to publish something I have written without my permission, and you certainly don't get to sell it.

I wrote the letter originally featured in the book, which was misrepresented contextually - it was presented as being a blanket absolution to the author - this was not the case.

When I complained to Chipmunka, their proposed solution was to write a fake letter from me.

It shouldn't be hard for anyone with half a brain to see why this would be a problem.

Stay tuned for updates :)

Squirrel said...

Hi Chipmunky - I've added page references and links to screenshots.

Given that you work for Chipmunka I am surprised that you weren't able to check this for yourself.

I suppose it was easier to lie and say I had "maniplutivly altered the suggested 'quotes'" - I clearly haven't, and I expect an apology for your dishonesty.

Squirrel said...

And before you say so, yes, I see you are "not affiliated with chipmunka," so I guess it is just a coincidence that you share an IP address with Chipmunka. Let's not go there :D

Chipmunky said...

lmao you're a funny lil rodent (aren't they known as vermin?)

Well, thanks for thinking I work for Chipmunka, that just goes to validate your inaccuracy for reporting the truth.

I have no idea which book or who you are or whether the book even exists apart from in your head. It doesn't take much to see this and everything else you've put over the internet to read between the lines though. If you aren't ashamed and showed no hatred in the letter you claim to have written then why don't you put the original up for people to see.

Funny thing is Chipmunka is an underground movement and yet by your internet remarks you're making more people notice them. Well done

Squirrel said...

"I have no idea which book or who you are or whether the book even exists apart from in your head."

I am starting to think, due to the consistency of your arguments, that you really do work for chipmunka...

The book is called "A Can of Madness," and you know it exists because earlier in your comments you said "After all, it also say's that he got the Spice Girls pregnant!"

Given this, your claims that the entire book might be fabricated are slightly... weird.

"If you aren't ashamed and showed no hatred in the letter you claim to have written then why don't you put the original up for people to see."

Because it was a private letter, because I don't want it published, and because if I publish it there would be more argument for publishing it in the future. The book in question was cancelled, ultimately.

Why don't you publish every letter you have ever written? (That's a rhetorical question, no need to answer)

"Funny thing is Chipmunka is an underground movement and yet by your internet remarks you're making more people notice them. Well done."

Yes, my aim with this is to have nobody realize that Chipmunka exist... why don't you write about this site on your blog? That would *really* get some more publicity for Chipmunka.

Look, the people you are standing up for here might do some wonderful things, letting people who couldn't otherwise get their thoughts published.

What I think you are missing is the darker side of Chipmunka that indulges in dishonest dealings with legitimate complaints - to the point that they will attempt to intimidate people, and that their CEO seems to be a rapist in denial.

Given that Chipmunka publish books from rape victims, don't you think it is kind of worrying that their CEO denies his own rape of young girls, even while admitting it?

I understand that this is shocking, but you should really take the time to read the excerpts I have provided.

From them, you will see that Jason Pegler did rape a number of girls.

You will also see that he says later he does not think he has it in him to be a rapist.

Jason Pegler describes rape in a manner that it could be nothing but rape, yet claims that he is not (yet, in any case) a rapist.

If I were a rape victim who had had my book published by Chipmunka this would be very upsetting to me.

Chipmunky said...

Obviously I know 'A Can Of Madness' exists. I was referring to the book that you claim printed your letter.

Most of the authors who come across Chipmunka do so out of reading Jasons book.It is usually the first Chipmunka book a possible author reads. If authors who had sadly been raped had even the slightest concern that Jason had also committed this act, I'm sure they would not have anything to do with Chipmunka. The only one who's said he's a rapist is you and those you've influenced. What do they call that?

You say the book was CANCELLED?!? *shock* *horror* - so you've just admitted that the book doesn't exist. OK, we'll go with the theory that this mysterious book has been cancelled....so when did you create this 'Jason Pegler is' blog? Was it after this 'book' had been cancelled? If so, that's pathetic. A compromise was reached and you had your way, but you still go on with the wish to damage the reputation of Chipmunka

And what even made you read Jason's book? If you hated them so much then you would have nothing to do with them. Instead you stalk the company by watching the website and waiting for them to hand out a book for free, and then waste your time and energy reading it purely on the hope that you can string together some dirt to discredit them. What does that make you exactly?

If a compromise was reached and the book was taken down. I suggest you do the same and take down this blog.

Squirrel said...

The purpose of this blog is to expose the questionable nature of the employees of Chipmunka.

I won't be taking it down.

To address your points:

"The only one who's said he's a rapist is you and those you've influenced."

No. Jason Pegler also says that he is a rapist when he says he forced himself on girls, including a girl who was passed out drunk. That's rape, isn't it?

"If authors who had sadly been raped had even the slightest concern that Jason had also committed this act, I'm sure they would not have anything to do with Chipmunka."

Let us hope so. It's not so much the fact that Jason Pegler is a rapist, as that he denies being one - as if what he did 'isn't really rape.'

" A compromise was reached and you had your way, but you still go on with the wish to damage the reputation of Chipmunka"

This is partially because, thanks to an anonymous employee/volunteer, I was made aware of their plans to 'wait until he forgets about it and then we can republish however we like.' I don't think this is a good attitude for any firm to have, let alone one purporting to be charitable.

"And what even made you read Jason's book?"

It was free, it was terrible, it provided an insight into the guy who runs a mental health charity while enabling the delusions and reinforcing the sickness of those he claims to help.


"If you hated them so much then you would have nothing to do with them."

I don't hate them, but I do think it is important that the truth be told.

"Instead you stalk the company by watching the website and waiting for them to hand out a book for free"

They sent me an email. I had to purchase the book that was eventually withdrawn from sale, and in doing so I signed up to their mailing list.

"and then waste your time and energy reading it purely on the hope that you can string together some dirt to discredit them. What does that make you exactly?"

You made some assumptions about why I read the book. I didn't go looking for 'dirt,' indeed, I was rather shocked and appalled to find it there. I guess this makes me, um, someone who can read?

"If a compromise was reached and the book was taken down. I suggest you do the same and take down this blog."

The point of this blog is to expose Chipmunka - to show that just because they are doing something charitable does not mean that they are not above doing some pretty terrible things.

The idea of a mental health charity that could actually be damaging to the people it claims to help is an interesting one, in any case, don't you agree?

I know there are plenty of people that will claim that Chipmunka saved their life, and if that's the truth, then great. I have evidence, however, that Chipmunka reinforced the delusions of someone who was clearly mentally ill because it suited them to do so. Manipulating mentally ill people is not in their best interests, and neither is reinforcing their delusions.

The fact their CEO is reinforcing his own delusions (describes raping young girls, but it wasn't real rape; he is a rapist but claims not to be) makes this even more fascinating.

I do have a real life (check the dates of these posts if you question that) and so I'm updating sporadically, but I have a lot of correspondence sent to me by that helpful employee/volunteer, which I will be posting when I find the time.

Squirrel said...

"Obviously I know 'A Can Of Madness' exists. I was referring to the book that you claim printed your letter."

This post is about Jason Pegler being a deluded rapist, as he shows in his book. Therefore, in a way, this post is about a book written by Jason Pegler.

If you say "I have no idea which book or who you are or whether the book even exists apart from in your head" without any context, you're going to run into communication problems.

I have plenty of places for you to comment about the book that Chipmunka published which contained material I own the copyright on.

I suggest keeping this post for the discussion of Jason Pegler's attitude toward rape and any discussion on the other book in the relevant areas ;)

Chipmunky said...

It's funny how you fall back on an 'anonymous' lead. 'Anonymous' would hardly stand up in court would it. It's funny how certain people always fall back on an 'anonymous'. 'Anonymous' probably hasn't even worked for Chipmunka. After all, you said I worked for Chipmunka and you were wrong.

All Chipmunka does is support people who are writing and have written their biographies. I know because I had a lot of concerns writing my book. Jason said it was up to me what I wanted to include in my book but that Chipmunka would support my decision. Chipmunka has no interest in manipulating what authors write as this would stop their works being an accurate, true to life account.

That you've resorted to the trusted old 'they were clearly mentally ill when we had a disagreement so how can you believe them?' line only serves to show what you feel about people who've battled mental illness.

Thank you for the emails of support from people who've been reading this blog. I appreciate your concerns and words of encouragement. I think we know what's going on now as the bloggers argument has clearly become impotent. All he's firing are blanks.

It's clear that you've dug yourself quite a hole here. It's a shame that you've let this hateful letter you wrote scar the last two years of your life. I hope you can move on soon. Maybe even make amends with the person you wrote the letter too. 'Tis the season of good will an' all.

Squirrel said...

'Anonymous' might not stand up in court, but the headers on the emails would.

"Chipmunka has no interest in manipulating what authors write as this would stop their works being an accurate, true to life account."

Chipmunka should have some interest in what their authors write. Just because someone writes something doesn't make it automatically true. Otherwise you would believe instinctively, without my having to persuade you with facts, that everything I have said here is an "accurate, true to life[sic] account."

"That you've resorted to the trusted old 'they were clearly mentally ill when we had a disagreement so how can you believe them?' line only serves to show what you feel about people who've battled mental illness."

Please quote where you think I said this, because I didn't.

"the bloggers argument has clearly become impotent."

My argument in this post is that Jason Pegler, in his book A Can of Madness, describes his rape of at least two girls, and that he seems to not believe that what he did was rape.

Please demonstrate how this is not a compelling argument, given the content of his book.

My other 'argument' is not an argument at all. It is an exposé, in progress, of how Chipmunka approach copyright and libel issues. There is no need to prove anything, the evidence to support all my assertions is in my possession.

"It's a shame that you've let this hateful letter you wrote scar the last two years of your life."

Why do you assume it was a hateful letter? It was, in fact, a letter of apology, written when I was 14 (many years ago :) )

The reasons I didn't want it published are:

1. The copyright belongs to me, and;

2. It was presented in a way that made it out to be a letter of forgiveness, and this is neither what it was or an accurate representative sample of my feelings in that context.

Anonymous said...

I've read 'A Can of Madness' and was disgusted by it. Jason Peglar's ego is out of control. I have come across him in the past. He knows nothing about the survivor movement or mental distress and, if I recall correctly, in his book he even refers to Electro Convulsive Therapy as Electro Cognitive Therapy. Expert on mental health! I don't think so. I was apalled by his attitue towards women in his book and, although I think there is a lot to benefit mental health survivors by writing about their experiences, I can't think of a worse person to be involved in publishing their work than this ego maniac.

Chipmunky said...

Oh dear. As I said earlier, it's funny how 'Anonymous' always pop's up.....did you forget to sign in?


Alright. To try and round this up in the fairest way :


"Chipmunka should have some interest in what their authors write. Just because someone writes something doesn't make it automatically true."

Nothing that's happened in anyone's past can be known by an outside party as being true, unless that party/person was also there and a witness to it. As shown with what you've written in your blog [claiming Jason Pegler committed an act, claiming that I work for Chipmunka etc.], 'just because someone writes something doesn't make it automitically true.'

In my book I put, at the very front, some sort of disclaimer, where I said 'I'm aware that everyone has a story, but this book is my story. my understanding of what's gone on......' . Although everyone in life will have their own view on events, Chipmunka is there to support the views of people who battle mental illness. What the author writes is what they experience. Their view of life and how it affected their experience of life. Your experioence of events will be different to the authors experience of events, simply because you are a different human being, and how your life affects you, and how life affects all of us, is down to how we all uniquelly interperate lifes events as an individual.

If this letter that you say you wrote was written when you were fourteen. The chances are that the words you wrote when you were fourteen were real at that time. If they way you wish to express yourself now is different to what they were then, that will be down to the way you're experience of life has shaped your understanding in the mean time. But the chances are that your words were real at the time you wrote them, and were therefore real to the authors experience that they documented. The point of reading anyones autobiography is to get a snapshot of what was happening in that persons world at that time.

While you can freely talk/type about how an experience or relationship in your life affected you. What you cannot do is declare that someone, you've probably never met, comitted a crime at a time and place that you were not witness to.

I'm sure you've seen how your blog appears when someone searches 'Jason Pegler' on the internet. Can you imagine how you'd feel if someone used your full name to write something similar about you? You're trying to destroy a mans reputation when he as a human being has not done anything to you.

If you were to genuinely use a quote from the book then you'd say that Jason say's he could never be a rapist. The only one who says he is, and keeps reaffirming it, is you. but you were never there and cannot go around making those accusations. As has been said before. Chipmunka took down a book for you. Why don't you take down this post?

Squirrel said...

"Nothing that's happened in anyone's past can be known by an outside party as being true, unless that party/person was also there and a witness to it."

This is correct.

"claiming Jason Pegler committed an act"

Jason Pegler committed the act of rape, according to his own words in his own autobiography.

"In my book I put, at the very front, some sort of disclaimer"

Did you know that these disclaimers offer you no protection whatsoever from defamation law? Chipmunka do not, and it doesn't seem like you do either.

If you write a book that defames someone, even if you say "this is only my interpretation of events" you can still be prosecuted for defamation of character. It provides no defense whatsoever, other than against those who are misinformed or easily intimidated.

"What the author writes is what they experience."

What happens when the author lies? You can't be this naive, surely?

"The chances are that the words you wrote when you were fourteen were real at that time."

Let's try this again. The words I wrote were real. They were presented in an entirely different context, however. Why is this hard for you to understand?

Imagine if your neighbor crashed into your car. The damage was minimal. They write you a note apologizing, and you write back saying "No worries mate. It's no big deal."

5 years later, your neighbor murders your mother. While they sit in jail, they write a book, and in that book they claim that you forgave them for the murder. They publish your letter as proof of this.

Does it make sense now? The words you wrote are still 'real,' but the context in which they are being presented is no longer accurate.

"What you cannot do is declare that someone, you've probably never met, comitted a crime at a time and place that you were not witness to."

This is true. What I can do is take the part of their autobiography where they say "I had sex with girls who didn't want to have sex with me," and the legal definition of rape, and determine that they are claiming to have raped those girls.

"Can you imagine how you'd feel if someone used your full name to write something similar about you?"

I would not be happy. If it were true, I would have to deal with it. If it were not true, I would consult with a lawyer and ensure the offending information were removed and suitable redress made. Given that Jason Pegler himself admits to rape in his own book, I would imagine a lawyer would laugh him out of the office.

"If you were to genuinely use a quote from the book then you'd say that Jason say's he could never be a rapist."

As it happens, I did quote that very passage. I find it especially disturbing that he can say this when he clearly did rape at least two girls.

Jason Pegler said he had sex with two girls against their will.

Jason Pegler says he doesn't think he has the potential to become a rapist.

Does the one cancel out the other?

No.

Personal beliefs don't come into it where the law is concerned.

Chipmunka believed they did not violate copyright law when they published material that did not belong to either them or their author. The law says they did.

Jason Pegler believes that having sex with girls against their will does not make him a rapist. The law says he is a rapist.

Chipmunky said...

Everything you've just said takes it right back to the point I made in my very first comment to this post.

You know how blogger works and how they won't take down this sort of thing because of 'freedom of speach', so all this 'Chipmunka can't get the lawyers to take it down therefore it's true' is a pointless argument. You're fireing blanks again.

I'm quite shocked by your latest comment on just how intent you are to show hatred to the founder of this charitable organisation.

You can enjoy your bitterness, but the real world will go on.

Squirrel said...

The fact of the matter is, you would have to be absolutely insane to disagree with the premise of this post, which is that Jason Pegler is a rapist.

The day someone can prove that forcing someone to endure sexual intercourse against their wishes is not rape, I will revise my position.

Until then, being able to read, and being of sound mind, I will continue to say that Jason Pegler, the CEO of Chipmunka Publishing, is a rapist without a conscience.

peter james crowell said...

All of this reading was well worth my time. I love the internet!

I read through the entire blog, and all the back and forth posts between the author and chimpmunky, and I'd like to share my opinion, as that's what the internet is all about.

First, I had never heard of anyone in this little party here. The author, Chpmunka, poster Chipmunky, and Jason Pegler all just entered my consciousness at approximately the same time. I linked here after searching 'eminem bipolar' on google, which brought me to the page "http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2007/12/13/does-eminem-have-bipolar-disorder/", and I clicked Squirrels post about eminem that linked here. I guess in retrospect the post could have been a draw, given its' context --


“Eminem may or may not be bipolar, but he is narcisstic/histrionic.”


In this way, both Eminem and Jason Pegler are similar. One way in which they are not similar is that Eminem is not a rapist, while Jason Pegler is.


Whether the post WAS to draw attention to this matter with Chipmunka or not; I don't care. It got me here. I found it compelling. I continued.

So thats history. Best I can do. It's up to you to believe me or not on how I got here, why I'm reading this, and my motivations for bothering to post. I was trying to read about rapper Eminem and opinions on if he is bipolar. I am bipolar, so you can see how that may be of interest to me. I also enjoy reading peoples internet arguments. I don't post much, but I read a lot! I was only looking for some opinions on Eminem and Bipolar and ended up with all of this to chew on!

So here's my $.02.

Jason Pegler was a Rapist. By his account, he committed rape. It seems like more than once to me.

He may or may not be actively engaged in Raping. That is uncertain. It seems highly unlikely however, as this man is somewhat well known, which would severely diminish his ability to get away with such a crime. However it cannot be ruled out either. He COULD be raping away somewhere. Perhaps he's using money to turn rape into sex. Unfortunately, those things happen. But we have no evidence of that, or any recent admissions to 'being a raper type guy' therefore I feel more comfortable saying he 'was' a rapist, than he 'is' a rapist, as he has never been charged or convicted, and is only guilty by his own admission.


So here's the deal. If I were on a Jury, I'd take Squirrels side. His evidence is f-in rock solid, his arguments are tight.. Hell, I only think he kept the thread going to see how far off-base Chipmunky would get with that busted, proof-less, circular logic.

You got schooled Chipmunky.

Thanks squirrel! I'm gonna read this guys book now, and look into this organization for a bit. I don't like the idea of the manipulation of the mentally ill. We already have to deal with the Pharma Industry. The last thing any Bipolar person needs in to be lead by anyone, nevermind another Bipolar person. I smell sellout. Sorry this is winding and whatnot, I'll finish up.

I really appreciate your dedication to honesty and integrity, and the thorough nature of the information presented. I look forward to looking into Jasons book. As someone with the same disorder, I would like to compare his experiences to my own. My hope is it will make me feel better about my writing, and if it is as horrendous as you've alluded to, will.

Anyway, thanks.

petecrowell at comcast dot net

Andrew said...

I read Jason Pegler's book "A Can of Madness" about 6 years ago. My ex wife to be is a mental health social worker who had come across Jason in a work setting.

I read this book, at what at the time was to become a pivotal point in my life.

Having read the exchanges between you and Chupmunka I would like to make a number of points. Firstly are you aware of the symptoms of bipolar disorder? I say this because that is what book is about. Secondly I would say that the book is ‘based’ on Jason’s experiences as a sufferer of bipolar disorder, it has let us say a fair smattering of dramatic licence in the way that it is written.

Ok, to return to my first point when on a high (as a fellow bipolar sufferer I know) we suffer from delusions of grandeur, are prone to grossly exaggerating our physical and mental capabilities, we believe what they we are saying, we enter a fantasy world where reality blurs with the almost dream state. So when we come down we often find it hard to recall with any accuracy what we actually happened, it is a bit like being drunk to the point you don’t remember parts of the night before.

Just like being drunk, being on a high is no defence if you break the law, you suffer the consequences just like everyone else.

The book is a very good read, it is sensational, and very gripping, just like a novel is. To have that much packed into such a young life is a bit farfetched unless you were a celebrity. Hence I believe there is some definite dramatic licence taken, and as mentioned above he maybe has problems recalling the past with total accuracy. I had to rely on others telling me things I had said and done.

Ok but let’s go back to your issue as I see it, in the book you say Jason describes forcing himself on one or more girls. I am going to leave out your other issues because the alleged rape is the sensationalist part of your allegation, and it comes up 3rd in a Google search for “Jason Pegler”. Actually let’s read that again, you have an issue with Chipmunka publishing a private letter in a book, which is fair enough, why create a blog about it? But on the Google search it says Jason Pegler is a rapist! Did Jason rape you, do you know for a fact that he actually raped someone? How come Stephen Fry didn't pick up on the rape? “A Can of Madness does what it says in the… er can. A brilliant memoir of mania; all the pain, humour, fear and despair is chronicled here in prose of clarity and distinction. Unforgettable and important".

Jason Pegler suffers from bipolar disorder and according to Wikipedia incidences of suicide of people with the illness is “10 to more than 20 times that of the general population”. So why you would create a web campaign persecuting him, calling him a rapist, when he has an illness which means at times he suffers from depression and has a disorder where suffers have high suicide rates?

Can you not stick to the point, because if you had the blog would have never surfaced has it has. Your private letter was published and Chipmunka weren’t that helpful when you complained to them about it. Instead you accuse someone of rape, who suffers from a serious mental illness whereby reality and fantasy are blurred. If he raped someone wouldn’t it be pretty stupid to put it in a book? Just because it is written down in a sensationalist autobiography it doesn't mean to say it is happened that way, I am an Aston Villa fan and Doug Ellis claims to have invented the bicycle kick, but I don’t believe he did for a minute.

Finally you hide behind the name 'Squirrel', yet you accuse Jason Pegler by name. All very convenient for you.

Squirrel said...

"If he raped someone wouldn’t it be pretty stupid to put it in a book?"

Yes, it was stupid. Stupidity is sadly common, and not a crime per se. It is deplorable to have raped someone. It is more deplorable to have raped someone and be unable to see it as such, which appears to be the case here.

If Jason Pegler has trouble recalling past events, why would he include rape scenes in his autobiography?

The answer is that he raped these girls, but does not view what he did as rape. This is the unsettling core at the heart of Jason Pegler.

"why you would create a web campaign persecuting him, calling him a rapist, when he has an illness which means at times he suffers from depression and has a disorder where suffers have high suicide rates?"

Are you saying that because Jason Pegler has an illness he is not responsible for rape? Or that the effect of his behavior on his victims is somehow diminished? I don't think this is the case.

"Just like being drunk, being on a high is no defence if you break the law, you suffer the consequences just like everyone else."

I see you agree.

In his own words, Jason Pegler is a rapist, and his apparent attitude to this rape are even more disturbing than the rape itself.

stoat said...

a "sexual encounter or incident" is a far cry from a rape or attempted rape this "squirrel" idiot is quite clearly in layman`s terms a twat...
any one reading the entire book would not draw the same ignorant conclusion that "squirrel" has concluded...

Squirrel said...

Hi there 'stoat.'

You said:

'a "sexual encounter or incident" is a far cry from a rape or attempted rape'

Who are you quoting? I just searched this page for "sexual encounter" and I couldn't find it. You don't get to cast what Jason Pegler did as anything other than rape, here.

Then you said:
'this "squirrel" idiot is quite clearly in layman`s terms a twat...
any one reading the entire book would not draw the same ignorant conclusion that "squirrel" has concluded...'

You haven't presented any evidence for my being a 'twat' though, so this is just an ad hominem attack, sorry.

If I may, let me show you a few definitions of 'rape:'

"In criminal law, rape is an assault by a person involving sexual intercourse with another person without that person's consent."

"force (someone) to have sex against their will"

"–noun
1.
an act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.
2.
the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse."

Now let's look at what how Jason Pegler described what he did:

"they wouldn’t let me have sex with them," "I did manage to push it in to one of them but she wriggled off," and "I started fucking one who had passed out but she woke up."

They refused to have sex with Jason Pegler. Jason Pegler forced himself inside one girl who managed to get away from him, so he went for the simpler tactic of raping a girl who was unable to defend herself as she was passed out - unfortunately for Jason Pegler the girl he was raping woke up vomiting.

Also note he said "her friends broke in" to the bathroom. Jason Pegler locked a passed-out-drunk girl in a bathroom in order to rape her. She was not awake. She was not conscious. Jason Pegler had sex with her anyway.

I don't think I am a twat, and I don't think you have presented any evidence, just your own anger.

I have presented clear evidence that Jason Pegler raped at least two girls, by his own admission. Evidence that this disgusting man also does not view what he did as rape, something that makes a mockery of the victims of sexual abuse he claims to be helping.

Please comment again, I'd like to know if you disagree with my thinking that what is described above is obviously Jason Pegler raping two girls, and if it is not, then why not, given the current laws in the United Kingdom in particular.

Thanks!

Andrew said...

In order for you to be able to say that a crime was committed there would first need to be an identifiable victim. If you cannot prove that a crime took place you could find yourself in court defending yourself against a charge of defamation.

“English law allows actions for libel to be brought in the High Court for any published statements which are alleged to defame a named or identifiable individual (or individuals) in a manner which causes them loss in their trade or profession, or causes a reasonable person to think worse of him, her or them. A defamatory statement is presumed to be false, unless the defendant can prove its truth.”

“In most legal systems, the courts give the benefit of the doubt to the defendant. In criminal law, he or she is presumed innocent until the prosecution can prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt; whereas in civil law, he or she is presumed innocent until the plaintiff can show liability on a balance of probabilities. However, the common law of libel reverses the traditional positions somewhat: a defamatory statement is presumed to be false, unless the defendant can prove its truth. One could suggest that this amounts to a presumption of the innocence of the plaintiff in the face of an accusation levelled by the defendant.”

“A defamatory statement is presumed to be false, unless the defendant can prove its truth.”
“A claim of defamation is defeated if the defendant proves that the statement was true. If the defence fails, a court may treat any material produced by the defence to substantiate it, and any ensuing media coverage, as factors aggravating the libel and increasing the damages. A statement quoting another person cannot be justified merely by proving that the other person had also made the statement: the substance of the allegation must be proved.”

“Warning to chatroom users after libel award for man labelled a Nazi” -
• High court orders lecturer to pay £10,000 damages
• Lawyers say case confirms existing law applies on net
See http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2006/mar/23/digitalmedia.law

No wonder you hide under the pseudonym Squirrel...

I would suggest you learn more about mental health, particularly with regards to bipolar affective disorder sufferers who experience delusions, he impregnated one of the Spice Girls remember!

Squirrel said...

Andrew, you still don't know much about the law but that is not surprising given that your suggested solution to copyright infringement is to falsify documents :)

All I've done here is quote Jason's own words in his own autobiography. As for your amusing comments about how 'wacky' people with mental disorders can be, I think that is terribly offensive. Are you saying that anything anyone who has ever had any kind of mental disorder says should be disregarded because once they said something 'crazy' as a result of their disorder? I find that a terribly offensive view, especially coming from someone who works for a mental health charity.

You disgust me. I think it is particularly sad that so many people with mental health problems are placing their faith in you and Jason, when you have such ugly views of the very people you profess to support. I am judging you and Jason only by your own words, and your own actions. Jason, in his own words, is a rapist. He described his idea that he had impregnated a Spice Girl as a delusion, so your attempt to link these is essentially you trying to explain away a confession of rape. And this after saying 'there's no body! You can't prove anything!'

You are a disgusting human who apparently has very little respect for the people you exploit in your charity publishing racket.

I don't know what you came here to do. Perhaps you thought mentioning a lawsuit would be a way to scare me off the Internet. All you did was reveal a little more about your own sordid character.

Welp.

Squirrel said...

Also interesting:

You quote (presumably) from Wikipedia :) but you didn't quote the text directly under the part about quoting someone:

"Fair comment [defence against defamation]

This defence arises if defendant shows that the statement was a view that a reasonable person could have held, even if they were motivated by dislike or hatred of the plaintiff."

I would think that reading Jason Pegler's autobiography, and seeing that in it Jason Pegler describes the way he raped a young girl in a locked bathroom, a reasonable person would hold the view that Jason Pegler is a rapist. I mean, I have showed this to a lot of people, and even if 3% of those are just not reasonable, that's still 97% of people think that Jason Pegler is a rapist, isn't it?

Andrew said...

I am not a lawyer, I am a layman. I do not know what you are referring when you say “not surprising given that your suggested solution to copyright infringement is to falsify documents”, this is my second post on here and I did no such thing.

I did not resort to name calling, you do not know me. I am a bipolar sufferer as I mentioned in my earlier post, the symptom I described is well known and well documented. Bipiolar sufferers commonly suffer from delusions of grandeur, I am not demeaning bipolar suffers as this is a well known symptom.

Your post is also confusing, I do not work for a mental health charity, however I do volunteer with St John Ambulance. I have overcome many obstacles to get where I am today and I hope to start medical school next year, how does this make me a disgusting individual with a sordid character?

I came here to support a fellow bipolar suffer who you are conducting a web hate campaign against.

Show your comments to a barrister along with the passages from Jason’s book and then see how your defence would hold up. Long gone are the days when people can say anything they like with impunity. Are you really gullible enough to believe that all autobiographies are totally accurate? You may also want get some legal advice with your original complaint.

Move on, don't let it take over your life, let it go...

Good luck

Squirrel said...

I am not letting this consume my life at all. I get an email every time someone leaves a comment here, which I read and then reply to :)

I'm sorry that you feel that your friendship is worth more than his appalling attitude toward rape, and that you would defend him rather than try and make him see why what he has said is so offensive.

Look at it this way: even if he is lying about everything in his book, that still doesn't help explain how he could present something that is clearly rape as something that is not. That is exactly the kind of attitude that rape survivors have been fighting against for years, and I don't think that I am amiss in pointing out that it is a particularly poor viewpoint to hold when he is working for an organization that presents itself as sympathetic to survivors of abuse.

If a rape survivor were to chronicle their experience, and describe at one point how they were raped, while unconscious, in a bathroom, after repeatedly pushing their rapist away before becoming unconscious, and then someone said to them "hey, at least you weren't raped," I think you would be uncomfortable.

I would be uncomfortable too, and I am uncomfortable when Jason Pegler does it. The fact that he is commenting on his own actions makes it even more disturbing.

For every single person who has come here to defend Jason, there has not been one who has been able to make me feel that Jason did not

1. describe the way he raped a girl, and
2. demonstrate that he does not believe that forcing his penis into a young, passed-out girl who is clearly unable to give consent is rape.

Instead, people tell me "you will get sued" or "he thought some wacky shit about a Spice Girl" as if these things are even slightly relevant to the matter at hand.

If Jason Pegler had a habit of producing completely fake autobiographies then that would mean that maybe he did not rape anybody. He would still have said he did, and he would still have displayed those unsettling views that rape is not rape, no matter how obvious it might be, in Jason Pegler's world.

The people who are defending this behaviour are also stomping on the rights of victims of rape, all over the world. You are stomping on the rights of those people to be taken seriously, to be treated respectfully, and to be given justice and support. What more do you need to be told about yourselves before you accept that some people might find you abhorrent?

Thanks for the well-wishes - I hope that you might be able to persuade Jason that the attitude he has displayed is particularly damaging to survivors of rape. Perhaps one day he will issue a statement regarding this. It would be a step in the right direction, for certain.

Robert Nix said...

My name is Robert Nix and don't regard myself a an authority on the facts you speak of. However, I don't regard anyone of 14 years old to be a rapist especially under the influence of drugs. I write, or wrote some books, and Jason published them. I don't perceive any worth in calling Jason a rapist. Even if it were true then that is still niggardly conduct to do to Jason or anyone who is not present to reply.

Squirrel said...

I am sorry you had your books published by a rapist who denies that the rape he committed was rape. I am more sorry you are defending a rapist who denies that the rape he committed was rape.

Jason (or anybody) is always welcome to comment, so your notion that this is somehow denying him or anybody else a voice is rather absurd. To suggest that I am denying a voice to a guy who has published himself numerous times through his own vanity press is rather odd, too, don't you think?

Robert Nix said...

I was not defending anyone. I did have a long reply. I don't know what to say. It is not really smooth to be unsmooth. I have seen a lot of people in nuthouses and it best to be smooth with everybody.

Maybe you are doing the right thing- see I am fair to you. If you want to read a book about someone that has been falsely accused please go download ''Letters to Leigh''.

What one does will manifest itself in the flesh and they will suffer from or receive reward: a sort of divine justice anyway.

Squirrel said...

"Slow is smooth and smooth is fast," as a great man once said.

The root of my problem with Jason Pegler is his attitude toward the rape he describes, because he clearly does not believe that forcing someone to have sex against their will is rape.

I appreciate you trying to be smooth rather than ranting - it is my hope that in time you will see my point of view - that attitudes such as these are damaging to victims of rape. For a 'mental health publisher' to have these attitudes is disturbing indeed.

Robert Nix said...

I concede to your point and yield. However, that does not mean I agree or disagree because you make valid points. That does not mean anyone is a rapist or that a rapist is a rapist unless intent and capacity is present and so forth. Maybe a juvenile lark is rape and maybe it is not it depends on several factors maybe. Maybe even if it happened does not make anyone a rapist erst and ergo they would be raping today. Therefore even if it were so it would be more proper to phrase it differently. Because to say rapist in the present tense is kind of erring anyway. I should have not got into this conversation. Something says that someone convicted of rape was a rapist unless they presently rape then that would be a rapist. It is kind of slanderous on that point, at least, to call someone a rapist in the present tense if they are not raping anyone in the present. So, it should be phrased correctly such as alleged rapist because then there is an indefinite clause of innocence and guilt that the individual interprets themselves. You see, to some people that was not rape but it just growing up and happens to many people although we would think it shouldn't. But again to inform anyone of a thing of privileged information is like breaking a confidence of a dark page in the past otherwise better not known. However, I concede that you have a formidable statement that cannot be easily argued against except even if true is yet possibly slanderous because it possibly misrepresents a person, place, and time, even if it were true it can still be misrepresentation of fact? I now end because what you say could be true but even if it were true could have untruth. Yet if it included untruth then it is not quite true. Thank you.

Robert Nix said...

To be fair to everyone again, neither am I true nor mean anyone but me am untrue, even though all are untrue.

Robert Nix said...

And..he might have done or not anything he wrote about..or not done things he wrote about..so because he might have said he did or did not does not mean he did or did not..like a false confession perhaps he might have invented the dialogue..like bragging. Maybe him perhaps saying he did was not proof of anything. Take care.

Robert Nix said...

I apologize for saying niggardly and all that stuff.

Anonymous said...

I cannot believe Squirell who does not even know Jason Pegler really has the sheer affront to victimise a charity leader and go against the Deformation of Character Act 1996 and use a web vendetta against him for personal reasons posing as something other than he is. People can do without sociopathic interfering distressing people who lack any and all understanding of real issues and the English Language and a writers style. I grew up with Jason and I know you Squirrel though you don`t think I do. And you are a sad, jealous, sly, vindictive infantile waste of other people`s time that serves no real good in real life or the web. You are constantly wrong in all things and just like to upset people with sensationalised nonsense you assume you know something about and must be right but could not be more wrong. The world actually despises you in REAL LIFE and does so also on the web. You are a genuine seriously sad person that ought to seek psychiatric advice further and you dosage should be increased on the Quetiapine to at least 850mg according to my contacts. You are not mental health empowerment and decency and a good person but an evil little oik with sad social issues in real life and the web becuase of the way you treat other people.

Squirrel said...

Hi there. You seem to be as angry as you are wrong.

I really don't understand why anyone says I am 'deforming[sic]' Jason Pegler. All the quotes are from his own autobiography. Jason Pegler described how he raped a girl.

I do lots of good things for lots of people, including on the web! I am donating my time and services so that a community social work/counselling service can get an updated and manageable website, for example. It seems that you, anonymous, are 'deforming' me ;)

I'll stop poking fun at that now and tell you the word is 'defamation' and it isn't something that I need to worry about. I'm only using Jason's words from his own book!

Lastly, why do you think the Internet happens outside of 'real life?' If it does, then will I be prosecuted in imaginary Internet court or in the real world legal system?

I am sorry if you are angry, but maybe you should be angry at the man who reports himself raping a girl and then claiming that his actions do not constitute rape, rather than the person who tells everyone that Jason Pegler is, in his own words, a rapist.

If you can persuade me that I am mistaken in my analysis of his autobiography, then please tell me and I'll be glad to change my opinion.

Until then, I'd appreciate it if you could keep off with the name calling unless you happen to have a copy of my (unwritten, unpublished) autobiography from which you can quote to support your claims ;)

I'm all for civil discourse, as should be evident from the comments here.

Squirrel said...

Another thing:

I knew there was something else weird about the last comment from 'anon.'

What is it with the tendency toward using mental health problems as an insult?

For people who claim to be coming from the side of 'mental health empowerment' there is an awful lot of "you're schizophrenic/insane" as if it makes that person's opinions instantly invalid. Is this a learned behaviour or what? What a sorry state of affairs.

Anonymous said...

http://www.thehorrorzine.com/Beware/Chipmunka/ChipmunkaPublishing.html

Anonymous said...

Records show that Chipmunkapublishing is a not for profit company - and it is NOT a charity


In May 2006 it was the Chipmunka Foundation which was granted charitable status. The charity registration number is 1109537. It has done nothing since then and its last accounts showed it had less than £100 in the bank

Squirrel said...

I certainly don't think Chipmunka Publishing is anything other than a vanity project for Jason Pegler's ego. The opportunities for their 'authors' to get compensated fairly for their effort is very slim indeed, and they seem not to have any real understanding of the business of publishing at all.

As far as the Chipmunka Foundation goes, all I know about them is that their homepage contains content mainly stolen from other sources.

Anonymous said...

I think these posts are lies written by someone with an agenda. I never met Jason but, I do know what power and greed does... it corrupts! Jason dedicates his life to empowering those that are disabled. I seriously doubt he is a dangerous rapist. Maybe the person who wrote this stupid blog is.

Squirrel said...

Luckily you don't have to decide for yourself. Jason Pegler describes how he raped a girl who was passed out drunk after locking her in a bathroom in his book 'A Can of Madness.'

You can find page numbers and screenshots in the article.

I think you are probably ignoring that, however. Why is this blog 'stupid?' Please explain.

Anonymous said...

Jason Pegler and Chipmunka Publishing are both things that anyone should steer well clear of. They take novelists and writers with mental health problems, screw them for all their cash and royalties, and then ditch them. They are scandalous, predatory, immoral and frankly disturbing. DO NOT go near this company.

Robert Nix said...

People claiming to try to help people in an institutionalized are few and far between. So, all things being true and or false, some people are getting published who are probably sincere, inexperienced, and maybe a little daft and naive, but it is a step. Whether it be good, bad, or ugly the alternative of no publisher at all for people in institutional settings is even uglier.

As previously stated, even if anyone is interpreted of saying something then there is little way of proving it, so it blurs into the area of being a moot point.

People are being herded into a plight like the future humans were in the movie ''Planet of the Apes'' where the Apes and Ape ''law'' was the government and the humans who were left senseless were psychiatric victims. It being the pursuits of psychiatry incorporate processes to render society like those in the future- dumb animals- as far as the part of society that is exposed to State psychiatry.

Therefore, I have not made any money with my books. However, I am part of a process of resistance, being as I have the prerogative of moving to the next step in life that many people will never have in part due to Chipmunka Publishing, whether it is good bad or ugly is a lesson to be learned.

I have not tried to sell any books because I don't how and they are expensive. However, it is too late now to address some things in the past, so at least I have some credentials in life that I did not have. However, if I malign the situation I would probably be causing undue loss of reputation for the other authors.

Robert Nix said...

One other thing, is that not one single one of my friends or family have ordered one single book of mine. So that is the status quo of people in institution's, no one cares, they are like the wild horses the US plans selling for meat.

Inadvertently, probably not realizing it, it being that other people know what they say better than I do, Chipmunka Publishing is a Lilliputian stake against the gigantic status quo.

Anonymous said...

Lots of comments on this link about Chipmunkapublishing as a publisher - and none are good

http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92347

Anonymous said...

Squirrel,

If you feel Pegler has committed a crime why don't you act like a responsible citizen and make a complaint to the relevant authorities? In this country, it is not right to wage campaigns through social media. We have police forces and courts for very very good reasons. I do not believe you should set yourself up as such. I am particularly concerned that you are not impartial as you have had conflict and an axe to grind with Chipmunka. I am not on the side of any abuser, I was abused when I was a child but i do believe the law cannot be taken into your own hands.

Squirrel said...

I'm not the person who laid out the fact that Jason Pegler is a rapist. He is.

I am also not the person who has a problem identifying the fact that Jason Pegler is a rapist. He is.

You should probably read http://chipmunkawatch.blogspot.com/2012/05/why-jason-pegler-is-rapist-and-why-it.html to understand what my point is.

If you read that I'm sure you will understand and therefore stop asking me to do the impossible as if it somehow invalidates my argument. The facts are there - check the Google Books links. All you need to come to the same conclusion as me is a brain in reasonable working order.

Thanks for your concerns - I'm not sure what they are or why you felt it necessary to express them. Maybe you could clarify?

Anonymous said...

Squirrel,

To clarify:

Jason Pegler may have incriminated himself in his book. That way there will be very strong evidence against him in Court.

Why do you not have the courage of your convictions and make a complaint to the Police?

Squirrel said...

Because I have respect for the victim.

I don't believe that a victim of rape has a responsibility to report that rape if they don't feel that they want to. It is pretty clear to me that forcing a victim to go through the unpleasantness of a rape trial (even an initial investigation) is just another form of abuse.

Perhaps the girl(s) who Jason Pegler raped have found their own ways to cope with this - perhaps they have not - it is not for me to insist they relive those experiences, especially when they are not germane to my argument.

I understand you may not have thought of this, but I hope that having had it brought to your attention it will adequately answer your question.

The troubling thing about Jason Pegler is that in addition to being a rapist, he is unable to acknowledge that the actions he described are rape.

This is the crux of my complaint against Jason Pegler - that he is an unapologetic, dismissive rapist - and that this does damage to the cause of abuse victims everywhere.

If you would like confirmation from the police, I am sure you could take the relevant passage from Jason's book and ask at the station if what he wrote is a description of rape (it is).

Basically you thought you had a good argument whereby you were claiming that if I didn't do something (report Mr Pegler to the police) then I don't believe what I am saying. Why are you trying to discredit me? Why can't you read what was written and come to your own conclusions? There is something sinister at the core of your actions, anon, and you are edging closer to the realm of rape apologist.

I'd be interested to hear your further thoughts on this.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for taking the time to reply Squirrel. First point, I am far from a rapist or an apologist for rape. I have worked as a counsellor and know it to be the devastating crime it is.

Saying that someone, whatever they are accused off, should receive a fair trial and there is a proper place to air grievances does not make me an "apologist." Do you really believe trying somebody on social media is right?

I am interested to note that quote the law but seem to have little respect for it.

You clearly have personal issues with Jason pegler and have motives that have nothing to do with "respecting the victim" and everything to do with your own personal grudge against Chipmunka.

In my opinion, this is obvious from reading your blog. You seem to want attention and I fear that I have been playing into your hands by posting. This will be my last post. Seek help.

Best wishes for the future.

Squirrel said...

I love that you think that wanting to bring attention to the fact that Jason Pegler claims to help the abused while acting in an opposite fashion is in any way a bad thing.

I think this, along with your peculiar line of questions here speaks volumes about your intentions. I don't believe your stated concerns, given that you have not yet been able to present a coherent and believable reason.

In any case, you're welcome to run away, just as you are welcome to come back when you think you have some other argument that will somehow alter the fact that Jason Pegler is an unrepentant rapist, and hardly the kind of person who should be involved with any kind of mental health assistance.

Anonymous said...

We all have done stuff we regret and sometimes admit it . Its sensational to publicise it , and if I said stuff i'd done in ignorance of what is right and printed it it may blogged about too . When were young we do mad stuff . Its wrong that Jason may have done these acts . I guess he needs to say he did or didnt at some point to clear it up . If he did I would imagine hed be in some kind of trouble at least with his reputation or more . An apology to the persons concerned would help , I guess they remember the event . And if they wanted to press charges they would have to give evidence . The police could but would need to have a clear posiblity of a conviction to do so . In any case I think its best if Jason makes a statement to put his present views forward to avoid people makng asumptions as to what his views on these events are at present . A gnomemouse .

Anonymous said...

Why are you makng an issue of this in this way ? Have you tried to confront Jason directly ? What was his response ? I believe he has a right to defend himself and express his views on his past behaviour and present attitudes towarda women .I know theres been alot of abuse of women in hospitals in the past and it continues . I think that forcing drugs on people is chemical rape and anyone helping others avoid being a victim to that needs to have thier good behaviour taken into account . Lets get better at defenfing those who are victims of life circumstance and help people heal from guilt and shame . Who is without sin cast the first stone . Anyone who commits adultery in thier minds is guilty of sin . Come on Gods sees it all . And Jesus wants to set you free to be your true lovng self . The prisons are full of criminals already . Lets help people be better by example . Hands up if you have no secret sins . Ps you are needed 24/7 by those who do . But remember not to judge as you havnt finished being tempted yet in life . Love keeps no record of wrongs . No one ever got better by being punished . Only spirit brings purity . Pain brings regret though . And anyone who hasnt had enough pain yet .. it will come sometime . As will death to anounce judgement is near . If thats what you give its what you will get for sure . Thsas why the law is there . Use it if you must but its not yours . It belongs to God from whom all law proceeds . Use it with humility or you will be judged for your pride . J +

Squirrel said...

To the two last replies:

You are the same person. You are posting from 212.183.128.62 in the UK. Couldn't you just go watch the Olympics or something? Either that or sit in front of a mirror, then you can argue with yourself without having to waste electricity.

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Anonymous said...

I also wrote a book that had phenomenal success on radio, tv newspapers I wrote it four years ago and to date I have had less than £800 in royalty payments... it's unbelievable..how they rip off the vulnerable but I hear BBC's Watchdog are on to him and the company they interviewed me last night... hope he gets named and shamed seeing as how he loves the limelight... ripping off the vulnerable most of whom write better than he does...

Squirrel said...

That's really interesting - glad to see someone with some media clout is getting involved.

I think it is horribly sick that he preys on the mentally ill in this way, just to inflate his own ego, and it would be pretty satisfying to see him called out.

I won't hold my breath, mind you.

Joe Chapman said...

I stumbled onto this blog today and I am very concerned by the content. I do not comment on the internet anonymously and I have a book published by Chipmunka, therefore I would appreciate it if "anonymous" would contact me directly, either through my website or call 07564 443725.

Squirrel said...

Hey Joe - maybe you should contact Watchdog yourself. I have no idea if what 'anon' says is true or not, but if you're interested, I would guess the BBC would be a good place to check out.

watchdog@bbc.co.uk

Watchdog, MC4 C5, Media Centre, Wood Lane, London W12 7TQ

Anonymous said...

Jason Pegler has yet another website up now promoting just himself - and that is what seems to be his aim - self promotion and making money

http://www.howtobeasuccess.org.uk

Anonymous said...

!!! -- busy man Pegler when it comes to promoting himself

http://www.howtobeasuccess.org.uk/
http://www.howtobeasuccess.org.uk/buy/
http://jasonpegler.com/
www.overcomingbipolardisorder.co.uk/
http://conquerbipolardisorder.co.uk/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eajdb...shGhFw&index=3
http://www.youtube.com/user/mentalhealthpublish
http://www.youtube.com/user/CuringMe...?feature=watch
http://www.youtube.com/user/EmpowerMentalHealth